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1. #Apple closing work slack channels debate update#
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But these are all things that you could do without taking swift-evolution off of email.Īfair, the option of keeping a mail interface was mentioned in one of the first posts, so none of the positive aspects of email would be lost (it just wouldn't be possible to use the "bonus-features" that aren't available in the medium) It'd even be nice to have an upvote feature.

#Apple closing work slack channels debate archive#

I would love to have a great web archive for swift-evolution-something with a really solid search function, good threading, and most of the other niceties of forums. Gmane is clunky, the thing we have on wrote: That’s a problem for the next generation to solve.The reason I don’t like mailing lists is because nobody has a good web UI for them. If the current activism within Apple gains momentum and everyone digs in their heels, what comes out the other side may be hugely disruptive to how private industry works for the foreseeable future. The current fuzzy, noisy, secretive, oftentimes arbitrary, and clear delegation-of-power model that is currently in place isn’t perfect but it has worked for a very long time.

#Apple closing work slack channels debate free#

It could lead to free agency and sniping of employees between companies, and of course a gradual move towards socialism. I’m not sure society as a whole is ready for a truly “open compensation information” model. I sometimes wonder if at least some of the existing norms in terms of salaries and compensation in private industry are in need of change? If companies published, at least internally, the base rate for each position along with the allowances for individual situations such as working remotely in Podunk, PA would the situation be any better or worse? From an employer like Apple’s perspective this calculus is already being employed, but only they, the managers who deal with these things, actually know what the numbers are and how the formula is applied. Of course there are other allowances added to individual pay to compensate for individual circumstances, some fair and some not so much, but at least these extra allowances are out in the open, published, calculable, and not arbitrary. At least in the military and in most civil service organizations, everyone at the same rank and years of service get the same base salary. We all accept the norms around secretive salary/compensation information in private industry but it’s not a universal system.

From a management perspective the situation is actually quite different and secretive, the classic “force ranking” that is used to sort the wheat from the chaff and often used to decide who gets the first promotion and who gets the first pink slip. At some level this creates a constant tension, implicit competitiveness, and fuzzy notion of where one really stands in the overall pecking order, at least at an individual level. One of the existing norms in private business is that (non top level) employees do not generally share information about individual salary and compensation. Like I’ve said before, there is a lot of momentum, tradition, and long standing norms that are being challenged by the pandemic response. Likewise, expecting to pull in a SF Bay Area adjusted salary while working remotely in Dubuque, Iowa is not a fair deal for the employer. It would be nearly impossible and unfair for employees (non-exploitable ones at least) to go into the SF Bay Area without cost of living adjustments. However, things like location-based salaries are a reality in any situation where an employer has to physically bring people into an area like California or NYC. As an employee I’m always going to seek out the best deal for myself. Totally agree on establishing a working dialog, as long as people on both sides are willing to listen. Not many people or companies respond well to demands. Maybe if they approached it as a dialog and flexible requests they might have more success. They claim that the channels concerned are still up and in use.

#Apple closing work slack channels debate update#

UPDATE July 29, 2021: 09:50 AM Easter: Sources with knowledge of the matter have contacted AppleInsider to say that is not correct that Apple is cracking down on the Slack channels. "The company bans channels 'for activities and hobbies' that aren't directly related to projects or part of official employee groups - but this wasn't always enforced, employees say." "Apple also recently began cracking down on Slack channels that aren't directly related to work," she says. However, Schiffer says that this channel is now under threat. The debate is reportedly taking place in an internal Slack channel with around 6,000 Apple staff.

"Still, internally, people feel like the company isn't listening to their demands." "Apple has made it clear that the earliest it'll ask employees to return to the office is October," she continues.

Schiffer says that the staff who wrote the second letter have pointed out that Apple "already adjusts pay for fully remote workers outside the Bay Area."